Walking down Sean MacDermott Street recently, I was drawn to this building as I am each time I go down there. It had to be photographed. The contrast between it and all around it is something else, and I had to do some digging to find out more. The natural man to ask was Terry Fagan of the North Inner City Folklore Project, who has written on the history of the area, in particular Monto. An interview we recorded with Terry appeared on the site before.
This was the Scots Presbyterian Church which later relocated to the corner of Howth Road and Clontarf Road, opposite Fairview Park and Clontarf DART station, Terry informed me. While digging around revealed some discussion the architectural merits of the building, Terry gave some interesting social insight on the church:
They helped the ladies of the night in the Monto who wanted out from that life. They ran a school across the road from the church which attracted a lot of poor children who went to get the free soup.
In 1910 the bishop’s built a school on Rutland Street to counter act the work of the free-soupers. There was hand to hand fighting by different groups to prevent the children going to the Presbyterian school as they used to come home with anti-Catholic literature.
This was like a red rag to a bull to the groups who marched on the school “To save the souls of the Children”. The school closed up sometime in the late 1960s.
A poster on broadsheet.ie noted that the church had even appeared on the cover of the single Keep On Chewin’ from Jubilee Allstars! The building featured on broadsheet as one of their frequent posts on unusual locations in the city.
history like this is really on the bone you just can feel it .so real .kids had to survive .hard times
I was around that building on two occasions recently. One was with a guy who plans to mark the Magdalene laundry with posters for the Eucharistic congress. The other was with Noel Hughes who used to deliver fruit and veg to the laundry. There seems to be some confusion as to whether the façade in question ever formed part of the Vatican Stalag in question. If you walk around the streets to the rear of this property it certainly looks like the land behind was arranged in a way that would suit the purpose. If it was somewhere other than an area populated by ordinary Dubs I’d wonder if it would be left to rot the way it is. Having Protestant connections hardly helps it’s chances of preservation either.
I think you will find it is a former Greek Orthodox church (built 1830)
I agree with you.
I presume that it was replaced by the G.O.C. in Arbour Hill. It would be interesting to know the history.
It was a Presbyterian church built in 1847. It was closed in 1888 when it was decided to build a new church in Clontarf to cater for the increase in congregation. (from “History of the Presbyterians in Ireland”)
When I was a kid we would play in there and chase the rats that where in there as it was a working mill and was full of puguins that was in early 70s. Was dangers place you did not want to be left alone in it. Glad to see it is still standing.
Apparently the original name of the street was Gloucester Street North, the information for which I was searching and is how I came to this and other sites’s posts. One site even claimed that Sean McDermott was always the name of the street! https://www.flickr.com/photos/53851230@N02/4981919651
The building under discussion was built in 1846 according to http://theirishaesthete.com/tag/sean-mcdermott-street/
Looks very much like an authentic portico of a Greek Orthodox Church to me also. With a high quality stone sculpture of an oyster she’ll on top. Very unusual.
‘To the left of the convent stands the derelict Greek Doric-style building which was erected in 1835 as a Presbyterian church. It’s use a a church ceased in 1896 when the congregation moved to their new place of worship at the junction of the Howth and Clontsrf roads. The Salvation Army occupied the building for a few years and it was then converted into a corn store, which it remained until the 1970s, when it was vandalised and destroyed by fire.’
from ‘Crinan-Dublin
A history of 13 north nine city streets’
by Jimmy Wren 1993
That title should say ‘north inner city’
Found this very interesting. Have often wondered history of this building. My father was born in lower rutland stteet in 1912 and always referred to Sean Mcdermot street as Gloucester Street.
There’s a photo in Dublin City Council’s Archive of Rutland Street Area, which shows the original building in the background.
https://www.dublincity.ie/image/libraries/gd111-rutland-street
There also one in the RTE archive taken from street level in 1953:
https://stillslibrary.rte.ie/indexplus/image/3005/024.html
I worked there as a secretary for A W Ennis (Dublin) Ltd for 5 years until the place was destroyed by fire and the milling company moved to Co Cavan where they are still in business. Lots of memories but certainly not for the faint hearted!,