Come Here To Me!

Horatio Nelson, who gazed over Dubliners from 1808 until 1966.

At several times during the course of its existence on O’Connell Street, the removal of Nelson’s Pillar from its location was proposed by different sections of Irish society. Interestingly, in some cases it was argued that the monument should be moved rather than permanently removed from the streets of Dublin. In 1925, it was proposed to move the Pillar to the Hill of Howth, an idea which seemed to enjoy strong support from some of the City Commissioners of the day.

A poem entitled ‘Dublin’s Doggerels’ from 1886 shows that debate on moving the Pillar had long existed prior to 1925. In one verse it was noted that:

Some say the Phoenix Park would do
That won’t go down with me.
There’s one commander there; the two
Perhaps would disagree

A postcard image of the Nelson Pillar (Fallon collection)

By the mid 1920s a wide variety of people and organisations were calling for its removal of the monument with even the Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland wading in on the debate, noting that in their opinion the monument “though possessing definite architectural merit, is so wrongly placed in its present position that it ought to be removed to a more suitable site.”

The Irish Independent noted in 1925 that:

One wonders why the proposal to remove the Nelson Pillar should be made now. We are told it has no political significance. The cost of taking down the Pillar would be considerable and it would be so much public money wasted at a time when the rates are very high and every penny the Commissioners can spare is urgently needed for constructive work.

The paper outlined its belief that ‘if it was merely proposed to replace the statue of Nelson by one of some Irish celebrity there might not be any great objection’. Interestingly, over the course of the Pillar’s life, various figures were suggested for the place at the top of the monument, including Padraig Pearse and as we outlined on the site before, even JFK and the trade unionist Jim Larkin! That suggestion had come in the 1960s from the American based trade unionist Mike Quill, a veteran of the Irish War of Independence and Civil War.

The Irish Times noted that Quill said his union would pay for the removal of Nelson from his pedestal and his transportation to Buckingham Palace, where he said Nelson was “respected and loved for his many and victorious gallant battles on behalf of the British Crown.” Quill wrote that he believed the statue gave the impression to visitors, owing to its sheer scale, that to the Irish it meant what the Statue of Liberty meant to Americans. Quill suggested a statue of Patrick Pearse, James Connolly or Jim Larkin be placed on top of the pillar instead of Nelson. As a compromise, “since there are two governments in Ireland today”, Quill suggested President John F. Kennedy as a statue to place in the centre of O’Connell Street. Kennedy had been assassinated only months prior in November 1963, and discussions were under way regarding a potential monument for Kennedy in Ireland.

In December 1931, the Irish Independent itself put forward the idea that Saint Patrick should sit on top of the monument, and that if the statue itself was replaced the Pillar could remain in its current location.

The Irish Independent, December 1931

Writing in 1818, only a decade on from the unveiling of the Pillar, J.C Curwen outlined his belief that the Hill of Howth would have been a far more suitable location for the monument, as “every vessel visiting the port would then have had an opportunity of paying the tribute of admiration to the memory of that gallant hero”. Over a century later, Howth was once again being proposed as the ideal home for the monument.

In 1925 it was reported in newspapers that a delegation from Liverpool had visited Dublin “to examine the structure and report as to the work that would be entailed in its removal from the present site. The result is that the firm has made an offer to the Commissioners to take down the Pillar at a cost of £1,000.”

In July 1925, the issue of moving the Pillar to the Hill of Howth was discussed at a meeting of the Howth Urban District Council. Opinion was split on the matter, with some arguing the Pillar would take away from the beauty of the area. Interestingly, the potential security threat posed by having the Pillar in Howth was also raised. The Howth Urban District Council decided to wait and see if the monument was indeed to be removed from O’Connell Street before voting on the issue, and ultimately it was decided to leave Nelson in place. it was not the last time the idea was raised, as this letter from 1931 shows:

Letter to the editor, The Irish Times, December 1931

By 1966, the debate on the Pillar and its location and indeed statue was of course ended by a republican bomb. Owen Sheehy Skeffington would later remark in the Seanad that:

The man who destroyed the Pillar made Dublin look more like Birmingham and less like an ancient city on the River Liffey, because the presence of the pillar gave Dublin an internationally known appearance.